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RE: Potty Training - 3/8/2010 10:07:24 AM
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Sideways
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Manda, I don't think Greg would go for making Nathan clean dirty underpants. Greg has mild OCD, and is very concerned about "contamination". But I will talk to Nathan about the potty seat maybe being easier for him to poo with. Unfortunately, there is no rhyme or reason to the times when he poos. None at all.
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RE: Potty Training - 3/8/2010 10:25:57 AM
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This may sound gross, but I allow for pooped-in undies simply as a budget item. When they get pooped it, I throw them away, just as I would throw away a diaper.
I did a cost comparison once, and found (I think) that 1 pair of undies = the cost of 3 diapers. Since my children pooped less than once a day, it would be equally cost-effective to throw out 1 pair of undies every day than to throw out 3 diapers. (And I only end up throwing them out every 2 or 3 days.)
This way, a pee-trained child can maintain the undie experience as an incentive for staying dry, and it is also an effective way of communicating that pooping in them is a mistake, not like pooping in a diaper is OK, so I think they pick it up faster than they would if I used pull-ups.
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RE: Potty Training - 3/8/2010 10:30:20 AM
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Oh, I throw out pooped in undies as well (Greg insists on it), but I didn't want to say that out loud, because I thought people here would think ill of me for being wasteful.
We'll continue to use undies for a while. I'll encourage Nathan and let him know what we want, but he won't be punished for pooping.
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RE: Potty Training - 3/8/2010 10:35:30 AM
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Punishing leads to regression.
There is nothing wrong with throwing away pooped-in undies, though its just as easy to wash them out. If you wash them right away, they wont stain.
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RE: Potty Training - 3/8/2010 10:40:39 AM
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Trust me, it's much easier just to trash them. Especially at wal-mart.
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RE: Potty Training - 3/8/2010 10:52:38 AM
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Well, we just simply couldn't afford to throw away perfectly good undies that only needed to be rinsed through right away (especially if they were likely to be pooed in again the next day).
If others can afford to be extravagant, then I guess go ahead!
I also don't see why it's a big deal to get a child to flip the poo in the loo and rinse the undies out, or at least place them in a bucket of water to soak. It's not a big deal, or an ordeal, just part of life.
And if Greg was worried about supposed "contamination" (Ruth, have you thought about how much of Greg's OCD you're going to allow to be put onto Nathan?), Nathan could wear latex gloves to do it.
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RE: Potty Training - 3/8/2010 11:06:38 AM
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I personally wouldn't let my kid clean poop out of his undies. I prefer it to be done by me, where there is no chance of it possibly being used for artwork on the wall from a frusterated toddler trying to get revenge for being punished by cleaning out his undies.
And for us, throwing away undies is not in our budget. We cloth diaper, so I have no problem in washing out the little bit of poo and washing them in the wash machine on a hot cycle and they are clean.
But, everyone is entitled to do what they want with their unders, though you will be throwing a lot away, because after learning to poo in the potty comes learning to wipe your bum after doing your #2, and I know that my 3.5 yr old is still struggling in this field. Honestly, the only way for them to learn is for them to do it themselves, you cant be there every time they poo and wipe for them, kwim?
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RE: Potty Training - 3/8/2010 11:34:06 AM
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It probably depends a lot on the texture of poo that is being dealt with.
As for me, disposing of pull ups on an ongoing basis, and disposing of foul panties every 2 days is a break-even proposition as far as money or 'extravagance' goes. It's obviously more expensive than washing them, or cloth diapering, but it is considerably less expensive than ordinary diapering, which is what taking a break from potty training would cost.
There are a lot of small luxuries in my life that cost $7.00 every 2 weeks. Not having to massage fecal matter with my hands and deal with a bathroom sink full of warm poop-tea is just one of them.
(I wouldn't throw them out for a smear from a poor wipe, or a chunk that could be easily dropped out into the toilet. For us, poo is more of a saturation event.)
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RE: Potty Training - 3/8/2010 11:54:06 AM
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We call them 'skid marks'.
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RE: Potty Training - 3/8/2010 11:54:49 AM
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My youngest was scared to poop in the toilet for some reason. I never did figure out why but she was. So she would bring me a diaper and I knew she had to go so I put it on her. I noticed though that she would also pee in her diaper and since she had been using the toilet for that for quite awhile I started telling her she had to pee in the toilet first before I would put the diaper on her. One day I asked her to just try and go poop in the toilet. I said it won't hurt and there really isn't anything to be afraid of. So she tried, discovered it was fine and she never wore diapers again. She was just a little over three.
Unless there is a medical issue, and it doesn't seem like there is I would just ask him before to try reassure him nothing will happen if he does and maybe one day he will and find out there is nothing to be afraid of.
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RE: Potty Training - 3/8/2010 11:59:25 AM
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I have also thrown away the more severe poo undies. I'm glad to know I'm not alone. I just can't deal with it, and we have gotten TONS of hand me down undies, so to throw a pair away here and there...is better than the alternative. 
I also agree with not making a young child wash out their undies. Now an older child with all his/her faculties...yes. One of mine has had issues that make him leak regularly (though not in about a month! YAY!!!!) and he has had to take care of his undies himself for years now. But we have also found a method of washing a load of poo undies without having to touch them. And then I run a load of bleach water through the washer before I put anything else in there. 
BTW, Ruth, I think you're doing just right. Focus on the successes, let him know you expect poo in the potty, but don't stress over it when it doesn't happen. You're going great. 
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RE: Potty Training - 3/8/2010 2:07:58 PM
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If you already have your child in cloth diapers, this will not work, but I switched from disposible to cloth and my son was potty trained in about a month. I had to go on-line to purchase toddler sized cloth diapers. It has been about seven years now, so I couldn't tell you where I got them.
My son is strong willed. Nothing I said or did made any difference. I simply put him in cloth and didn't say another word. He commented that it was "gross." I told him that I agreed and if he didn't like it he could use the toilet, so he did and that was that.
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RE: Potty Training - 3/8/2010 2:20:49 PM
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What really sets Greg off is that Nathan's poo is hard enough to sometimes roll out of his underwear, down his pants and onto the floor.
Maybe that's why he finds it difficult to poo on the toilet, because that sounds like he's a little constipated. If it's of a hard consistency, it may hurt him, or at least feel uncomfortable, which may inhibit his ability to push it out on the loo.
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RE: Potty Training - 3/8/2010 3:46:50 PM
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Maybe, but he goes once or twice a day. He can't be that stopped up.
Today was good progress. He ASKED to go potty (usually I have to tell him), then he sat a while and really tried to poop. He didn't, but even taking the time to sit and try is good. He didn't like the cover potty at all, but he did like the idea of "making a splash" and singing the little song we made up.
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RE: Potty Training - 3/8/2010 6:02:50 PM
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What really sets Greg off is that Nathan's poo is hard enough to sometimes roll out of his underwear, down his pants and onto the floor.
Maybe that's why he finds it difficult to poo on the toilet, because that sounds like he's a little constipated. If it's of a hard consistency, it may hurt him, or at least feel uncomfortable, which may inhibit his ability to push it out on the loo.
I agree with this. My son has a delayed digestive system, but had a real difficult time going. The doctor had him on miralax which was unpredictable and he refused to go on the potty making potty training difficult.
He understood the concept and knew what to do, but still refused to do it on the potty.
On the last potty training thread a doctor from Canada who adopted a 5 y/o, she found that giving the child probiotics and flaxseed oil, help eased the process.
I had contacted her, but felt my son was too young for probiotics, but tried the flaxseed oil.
What a Godsend that was!!!! Within one week he started using the potty and it wasn't hard nor was it diarrhea which I was getting sometimes with the miralax. This just seemed to regulate him, with out the strain or other complications.
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RE: Potty Training - 3/8/2010 6:08:44 PM
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Flaxseed oil? Well, that may be worth a shot. Nathan kept asking me today to "help me poop in the potty". He was trying; he just couldn't make it work.
Thanks for all the good ideas.
Ah man. Not 2 minutes after getting off the potty he poops in his pants. What is going on here?
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RE: Potty Training - 3/8/2010 6:23:49 PM
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Flaxseed oil? Well, that may be worth a shot. Nathan kept asking me today to "help me poop in the potty". He was trying; he just couldn't make it work.
Thanks for all the good ideas.
Ah man. Not 2 minutes after getting off the potty he poops in his pants. What is going on here?
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My son did the same thing, except he would run and hide, so you would not see him.
I buy 1000 mg of flaxseed oil capsules, puncture it and squirt the oil into his drink before bed. It must be tasteless because he's never noticed the difference. I do it every night and haven't had a poopy problem since.
When I took him to the pediatrician this year for shots and routine check -up they had no problems with him taking it. So I guess it is whatever works
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RE: Potty Training - 3/8/2010 6:48:54 PM
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Had a quick executive conference with the hubby, and we agree that we will work hard to make sure he gets more fluid, fruits and veggies into his diet, and we'll probably try the flaxseed oil as well. We told him how proud we were of him for trying and I make a big deal of it when he volunteers to potty.
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RE: Potty Training - 3/8/2010 9:07:07 PM
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Good for him for trying. When potty training I had to remind myself how strange it would be to start going to bathroom in my pants so I imagine it must be strange to them to go potty somewhere else.
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